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flesh99
05-14-2007, 05:38 PM
flesh99 (http://uberchristians.org/vb/member.php?u=1) has reported a post.

Reason:I think this should be merged with the sitting shiva thread. It's not really about beliefs and there is no good reason to continually bitch about CF here. There is always elsewhere for that.
Post: CF Directors handle reports on CF Directors (http://uberchristians.org/vb/showthread.php?p=13313#post13313)
Forum: This I Believe
Assigned Moderators: N/A

Posted by: drstevej (http://uberchristians.org/vb/member.php?u=62)
Original Content: How conveeenient!

My Question in the DR:

Who Handles Reports of a Director's Post?

If a Director's post in DR is reported as a rule violation, who handles the report?

* Support Staff
* The Directors
* Erwin
* The Ombudsman
* No one

It seems to me that Erwin or the Ombudsman ought to be primarily involved to insure objectivity and independence.

Please explain the current proceedure for handling reports of Dirtector posts.

Thanks,
Steve

Answer from the Policy Director.

Currently, such reports are handled by the directors peers.

This is being discussed, and will probably be revised in the near future.

Amazing. And the result is that reports are never heard from again.

drstevej
drstevej
05-14-2007, 07:45 PM
You can complain about CF elsewhere, but I am waiting for my eternal ban to be lifted.
praying
05-14-2007, 08:16 PM
maybe there should be a dedicated thread strictly for bitching and moaning about CF and nowhere else.
ravenscape
05-14-2007, 08:18 PM
You can complain about CF elsewhere, but I am waiting for my eternal ban to be lifted.
Have you contacted IIDB administrators via the email address on the index page? I don't think bans are lifted unless the bannee initiates a discussion about returning.
drstevej
05-14-2007, 08:37 PM
Have you contacted IIDB administrators via the email address on the index page? I don't think bans are lifted unless the bannee initiates a discussion about returning.

No, I have not contacted them and am not really interested. One experience with their power structure was enough...

Steve
flesh99
05-14-2007, 09:07 PM
Not to get into power structures and such but I desire this board to be more than a place that compares itself to CF. I do understand that CF doesn't allow much in the way of critique but I also think that we should rise beyond gossiping about the power structure at CF and move on. Of course this isn't policy but I would like to see the bitching about CF at least contained so that it does permeate the board and all that we do.
drstevej
05-14-2007, 09:18 PM
Of course this isn't policy but I would like to see the bitching about CF at least contained so that it does permeate the board and all that we do.

Then create a sub-forum and it will be contained.
little owl
05-14-2007, 09:20 PM
I kind of agree...if it's merged with the sitting shiva thread, we'll have a thread like the one at IIDB. I must say, I think a subforum is paying too much attention to CF...
Annabel Lee
05-14-2007, 09:25 PM
No, I have not contacted them and am not really interested. One experience with their power structure was enough...

Steve

Ooooooombudsman!
ToyotaCamry
05-15-2007, 12:45 AM
Absolutely a whole forum is too much, one CF bitching thread ought to suffice. Zero really would suffice but in a more open environment such as this there probably needs to be one so it doesn't run amok all over the boards.
drstevej
05-15-2007, 01:02 AM
Ooooooombudsman!

Exactly!

So eloquent, Grannybel.
Abiel
05-15-2007, 06:13 AM
a single dedicated bitch-fest thread is imo a bad idea. It's an even worse idea than lots on individual threads.
chaoschristian
05-15-2007, 07:26 AM
Just to be clear about the intentions behind my recommendation to start 'Sitting Shiva', it's not about bitching about CF, it's about allowing people to heal from their experience with CF by acknowledging the hurt and then letting go of it, and for folks to support those who are moving through the grieving process.

I agree with Flesh99, UberChristians may have some anti-CF in in its genetics, but that doesn't mean it has to grow up to be a big, giant ~Elsewhere~.

Maybe the shiva threads needs to be moved to Help to make its purpose clear.
Texas Lynn
05-15-2007, 10:43 AM
I think a specific forum area for CF aftermath would be okay. I would avoid it. I would especially avoid it if acronymns are used.
BelindaP
05-15-2007, 05:35 PM
maybe there should be a dedicated thread strictly for bitching and moaning about CF and nowhere else.

That's what the sitting Shiva thread was created for.
chaoschristian
05-15-2007, 05:46 PM
Just to be clear about the intentions behind my recommendation to start 'Sitting Shiva', it's not about bitching about CF, it's about allowing people to heal from their experience with CF by acknowledging the hurt and then letting go of it, and for folks to support those who are moving through the grieving process.

I agree with Flesh99, UberChristians may have some anti-CF in in its genetics, but that doesn't mean it has to grow up to be a big, giant ~Elsewhere~.

Maybe the shiva threads needs to be moved to Help to make its purpose clear.

maybe there should be a dedicated thread strictly for bitching and moaning about CF and nowhere else.

That's what the sitting Shiva thread was created for.

heh.
seebs
05-15-2007, 10:48 PM
seebs (http://uberchristians.org/vb/member.php?u=3) has also reported this post.

Reason:Proposal: The "CF" threads move from TIB to Politics.

Any strong feelings or objections? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Glass*Soul
05-16-2007, 07:44 AM
I have no strong feelings against CF discussion being somewhat grouped together.

We do need to remember that this board was started at least to some degree in reaction to problems at CF and that a certain percentage of the members at this point carry some sense of being refugees from that situation. (Some of us were actively invited to come out of CF and to come here in one breath, so to speak.) Not everyone needs to talk about it at length, but some do. This need may be quite organic--coming up at unexpected moments in other conversations.

I hope those with magic powers will remain gentle. The need to talk about it here at UC is nothing to be ashamed of.
ToyotaCamry
05-16-2007, 09:56 PM
a single dedicated bitch-fest thread is imo a bad idea. It's an even worse idea than lots on individual threads.

Just out of curiosity and puzzlement also, why so?
Abiel
05-21-2007, 12:05 PM
Because some people will take up almost permanent residence.

I am stupid enough to subscribe somewhat to the philosophy 'love keeps no record of wrongs'. Text memorialises wrongs. It is a record.
Glass*Soul
05-21-2007, 07:01 PM
Because some people will take up almost permanent residence.

I am stupid enough to subscribe somewhat to the philosophy 'love keeps no record of wrongs'. Text memorialises wrongs. It is a record.

I agree. Having lots of individual threads allows each person to bring out whatever issues they have and talk it over how ever long they need to and then let it go.

However, if a thread takes on a "life of its own" I don't know that we need to try to fight it or control it.